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Poster: Reade Date: Jun 3, 2012 3:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jerry's Big Fat Cop-out?

I happen to think this a wonderful post despite the hijack. Let me lame it up by responding.

Garcia was definitely NOT too cynical to see the advances on the social and political fronts. It's just that to him it was all so achingly slow.... In his world there wouldn't be a need for Civil Rights legislation.

On the Social front I have always felt like I totally got what he was talking about with that quote.
Others have said it differently: Larry David, of Seinfeld and Curb Your Enthusiasm fame has said he never saw so much conformity as he did in the Sixties.
That to me was what Jerry was referencing. He was a true contrarian. DID NOT go with the flow. Didn't like playing anti-war protests in the sixties, defended disco music in the late seventies at the height of the Disco Sucks movement, etc.

I never saw him as 'apolitical' as much as I saw him as a dyed-in-the-wool contrarian. I've known a few believe me- while they can rain on a parade more quickly than anybody, they're also among the brightest people I've known.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jun 3, 2012 4:34pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jerry's Big Fat Cop-out?

Oh yeah, I can defn see that; and it may be the major contributing factor (ie, rather than really thinking it hadn't been "good" or that we hadn't "advanced", etc., etc., this was his approach/position/etc).

And, defn know what you are driving at, and without trying to sound like "ah ha! I am one, thus intelligent and well liked by you" (har, har), I often come off like this (not meaning to always rain on parades but somehow end up doing it, etc., etc).

He probably would have agreed with folks, in the end, that things had improved, in some knock down drag out discussion, but would have taken a number of Devil's Advocate positions on the way to that agreement...

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Poster: Reade Date: Jun 4, 2012 8:45am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jerry's Big Fat Cop-out?

"He probably would have agreed with folks, in the end, that things had improved, in some knock down drag out discussion, but would have taken a number of Devil's Advocate positions on the way to that agreement..."

For sure. Mightily distrustful of anything political, Jerry wasn't gonna give alot of ground there easily.
When Weir would rag him about not voting, he would proclaim n his silvery elfin voice, "Vote for what?'

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